VIA PT880 Screen corruption in Vista

[Skullet]

Originally posted by: T@2
Pff.M8, Gainward products are xtreme products they are exceptions that confirms the rule 7800 GS has 16 pipes.Gainward tends always to avoid Nvidia reference terminology.U will not find a similar implementation at other vendor ,dont full other users .The Gainward unusual implementations are not rules in this market.And your card should be tested in a similar hardware environment like those 2 or a 7600Gt on a similar platform like yours so we can make an ideea.Usual G70(notG71) implementations are in pair with 7600GT.Do not create confusion among users m8 ,extreme editions are anyway rare!7800GS+ is a Gainward invention.And DX 10.1 will support DX 10 hardware M8!

You really are a very odd person indeed, I've been telling you it was a Gainward card since my first post, I've also been telling you that it wasn't a standard 7800GS but you refused to listen, fortunately anyone else reading this will have also noticed that fact and is probably laughing right now, I know I am. Thus in summary the only confusion here has been created by your own innability to read what others are saying. DX 10.1 will indeed support DX 10 hardware, but unfortunately DX 10 hardware wont support the new DX10.1 extensions. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]


In response to your edit: I purchased the card back when I was running a Pentium 4 based system with a good motherboard, I later decided to upgrade to a Core 2 Duo but this also meant getting a new motherboard that supported my AGP card, unfortunately the Asrock was about the only choice available at the time and trust me I'd rather be running my expensive high end components on a much better motherboard.

[T@2]

Is not a 7800GS at all that is what i m trying to tell u.Don t worry this forum is just for fun we don t start wars over here.You are much to serious.When i post i also think at the others and when we clarify something is for all readers understanding. U spend a lot of money for a video card that cant be used on Vista ,that is too bad,having in mind that is a very fast card.Next time sell the processor and buy a new system.And i repeat don t blame VIA chipsets for bad mobo vendor implementations.Via should ,in my opinion, make a strict check of the vendors products and implement a mobo certification program for their chipsets to avoid in the future such problems.Removing bad vendors is a good ideea.ASrock Vista ready logo on that mobo needs to be removed as soon as possible and they have to be forced to do that.

[Skullet]

Originally posted by: T@2
Is not a 7800GS at all that is what i m trying to tell u.Don t worry this forum is just for fun we don t start wars over here.You are much to serious.When i post i also think at the others and when we clarify something is for all readers understanding. U spend a lot of money for a video card that cant be used on Vista ,that is too bad,having in mind that is a very fast card.Next time sell the processor and buy a new system.And i repeat don t blame VIA chipsets for bad mobo vendor implementations.Via should ,in my opinion, make a strict check of the vendors products and implement a mobo certification program for their chipsets to avoid in the future such problems.Removing bad vendors is a good ideea.ASrock Vista ready logo on that mobo needs to be removed as soon as possible and they have to be forced to do that.

Welcome to my world mate I've been trying to tell you it wasn't a standard 7800GS for the last 2 pages, so you aren't telling me anything I don't already know here. Trust me you'll know when I'm being much to serious I've been taking it easy on you so far. I think the problem here is your either 12 years old or someone with very basic computer knowledge but you see yourself as a bit of a wizz kid, as a result your posts are confusing and are full of inaccurate information, I realise that your probably trying to be helpful but trust me dude your not helping at all.

My graphics card DOES work with Vista, all of my games work fine the only issue I have is screen corruption at logon screen and with UAC which I switched off anyway. I don't see what selling a processor has to do with anything, I had a P4 based machine and decided I wanted a Core 2 Duo being as it uses a different socket from P4 I also needed a new motherboard. Besides why are you lecturing me about buying a new system when your own system looks like it was built around the same time as Noah's Ark, seriously dude an upgrade is long overdue I think. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]

Anyways enough of these shenanigans and back on topic, I emailed Asrock and got the usual install 97.16 drivers guff, so I emailed them back, the reply is pasted bellow make of it what you will. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]

"We have informed this issue to NVIDIA and VIA already.
But they have yet to provide capable driver to us. We will keep pushing they to fix the issue.
We suggest you to use Forceware 97.19 VGA driver for try first.

Besides, the NVIDIA or the VGA card manufacturer may have new driver or new firmware for the issue.
You may also contact NVIDIA or the card manufacturer to get more information about your VGA card. "

[T@2]

That computer u see is 5 years old and is my VIA based system,It would have been improper,in my opinion,to post the other system i got ,based on a AM2 platform with nvidia chipset.If i would have got an older VIA chipset based system i would have put it over there.Im just proud of my KT333.Look at the LOGO ,isnt it beautiful?! The system u see over there worked flawless until now.
When u posted here u asked for help ,i recommended u that driver version from Nvidia ,that u already knew ,but i see u just want to be as arrogant as u can be.U said im odd ,look at your arrogance,u put questions and then u answer yourself at them,if u already knew what u asked what was the purpose of your posts.VIA chipsets are OK, belive me mate.Nvidia may find a workaround ,but your waiting will be long.U already got in contact with ASROCK ,what did u think we can tell u over here.U just wanted to hit in VIA ,but if in XP works ok,isnt obvious the problem is Vista itself,Nvidia just has to examine a unfinished operating system and put a workaround in their drivers as ASROCK suggested u.Blame Microsoft mate, for the lack of collaboration with hardware vendors, not VIA.

""""""I've been trying to fix this issue for months, I'm using an Asrock 775Dual-VSTA with an E6600 and a Gainward Bliss 7800GS AGP. I think we need to accept the fact that not only will this issue not be fixed, but the companies responsible simply don't care. The way I see it you need to decide for yourself who you feel is responsible here, personally I lay the blame squarely with Asrock and VIA both have a long history of producing junk, I could blame Nvidia but my card works flawlessly with Vista if used in a non Asrock or VIA motherboard. As a result I will not be buying either Asrock or VIA products again in future, I suggest all those affected do the same to avoid further issues, hopefully as a result both companies suffer financially as they have basically ripped us off and washed there hands of the problem.""""""

U say here the problem is Asrock & VIA,Asrock may be ,there were problems reported with this mobo (search this topic " PCI-PCI Bridge re-install on every cold boot" that has also replies related to your problem)but not VIA,problems reported by MSI mobo users with VIA chipsets were solved with bios and driver updates.U say its not nvidia ,i agree with u,the problem is VISTA itself because was not properly tested.U just wanted to push users to blame VIA hardware.In 2001,2002,2003 and so on ,VIA made excellent chipsets for Intel and AMD processors not "junk" as u say.No name mobo manufacturers are not reference for VIA chipsets quality.On that boards no chipset will work correctly due to low quality production ,starting from the printed circuit board and finishing with the bad capacitors.A stable board has good voltage regulation and good printed circuit to provide stability.I m not an expert,this is a forum where we all put down our opinions based on our limited knowledge and experience.And yes your card is awesome,u wanted to hear that from the start,i hope you are happy now.

[Skullet]

Originally posted by: T@2
That computer u see is 5 years old and is my VIA based system,It would have been improper,in my opinion,to post the other system i got ,based on a AM2 platform with nvidia chipset.If i would have got an older VIA chipset based system i would have put it over there.Im just proud of my KT333.Look at the LOGO ,isnt it beautiful?! The system u see over there worked flawless until now.
When u posted here u asked for help ,i recommended u that driver version from Nvidia ,that u already knew ,but i see u just want to be as arrogant as u can be.U said im odd ,look at your arrogance,u put questions and then u answer yourself at them,if u already knew what u asked what was the purpose of your posts.VIA chipsets are OK, belive me mate.Nvidia may find a workaround ,but your waiting will be long.U already got in contact with ASROCK ,what did u think we can tell u over here.U just wanted to hit in VIA ,but if in XP works ok,isnt obvious the problem is Vista itself,Nvidia just has to examine a unfinished operating system and put a workaround in their drivers as ASROCK suggested u.Blame Microsoft mate, for the lack of collaboration with hardware vendors, not VIA.

""""""I've been trying to fix this issue for months, I'm using an Asrock 775Dual-VSTA with an E6600 and a Gainward Bliss 7800GS AGP. I think we need to accept the fact that not only will this issue not be fixed, but the companies responsible simply don't care. The way I see it you need to decide for yourself who you feel is responsible here, personally I lay the blame squarely with Asrock and VIA both have a long history of producing junk, I could blame Nvidia but my card works flawlessly with Vista if used in a non Asrock or VIA motherboard. As a result I will not be buying either Asrock or VIA products again in future, I suggest all those affected do the same to avoid further issues, hopefully as a result both companies suffer financially as they have basically ripped us off and washed there hands of the problem.""""""

U say here the problem is Asrock & VIA,Asrock may be ,there were problems reported with this mobo (search this topic " PCI-PCI Bridge re-install on every cold boot" that has also replies related to your problem)but not VIA,problems reported by MSI mobo users with VIA chipsets were solved with bios and driver updates.U say its not nvidia ,i agree with u,the problem is VISTA itself because was not properly tested.U just wanted to push users to blame VIA hardware.In 2001,2002,2003 and so on ,VIA made excellent chipsets for Intel and AMD processors not "junk" as u say.No name mobo manufacturers are not reference for VIA chipsets quality.On that boards no chipset will work correctly due to low quality production ,starting from the printed circuit board and finishing with the bad capacitors.A stable board has good voltage regulation and good printed circuit to provide stability.I m not an expert,this is a forum where we all put down our opinions based on our limited knowledge and experience.And yes your card is awesome,u wanted to hear that from the start,i hope you are happy now.

Wow what a bizarre rant, I'll be honest here I could only make sense of about 30% of what you wrote there, and the 30% I could make sense of almost sent me to sleep. For the record posting on a forum doesn't constitute a call for help, as you can see my first post is a statement not a question. This isn't the first problem I've had with VIA chipsets I've built a lot of PC's over the years and seen a good few VIA related issues, if I want to slaughter VIA on a forum as a result of my experiences with there products then I will do so. Please get someone to proof read any future posts you make, as your posts are an absolute train wreck and impossible to read, do you have no concept of how to form a sentence? Also from what I can tell almost 70% of what your saying is just random nonsense and bears no relevance to anything else in your post or this whole

[boyblue]

Is this thread actually going anywhere, we are here to help each other if we can, if you want to slang each other off use the PMs.

[Skullet]

Originally posted by: boyblue
Is this thread actually going anywhere, we are here to help each other if we can, if you want to slang each other off use the PMs.

Um...look up a few posts, I posted my correspondence with Asrock so yup I'd say this thread is going somewhere albeit very slowly. Thanks for asking though. :-)

[T@2]

[quote]
Originally posted by: Skullet

Originally posted by: T@2
That computer u see is 5 years old and is my VIA based system,It would have been improper,in my opinion,to post the other system i got ,based on a AM2 platform with nvidia chipset.If i would have got an older VIA chipset based system i would have put it over there.Im just proud of my KT333.Look at the LOGO ,isnt it beautiful?! The system u see over there worked flawless until now.
When u posted here u asked for help ,i recommended u that driver version from Nvidia ,that u already knew ,but i see u just want to be as arrogant as u can be.U said im odd ,look at your arrogance,u put questions and then u answer yourself at them,if u already knew what u asked what was the purpose of your posts.VIA chipsets are OK, belive me mate.Nvidia may find a workaround ,but your waiting will be long.U already got in contact with ASROCK ,what did u think we can tell u over here.U just wanted to hit in VIA ,but if in XP works ok,isnt obvious the problem is Vista itself,Nvidia just has to examine a unfinished operating system and put a workaround in their drivers as ASROCK suggested u.Blame Microsoft mate, for the lack of collaboration with hardware vendors, not VIA.

""""""I've been trying to fix this issue for months, I'm using an Asrock 775Dual-VSTA with an E6600 and a Gainward Bliss 7800GS AGP. I think we need to accept the fact that not only will this issue not be fixed, but the companies responsible simply don't care. The way I see it you need to decide for yourself who you feel is responsible here, personally I lay the blame squarely with Asrock and VIA both have a long history of producing junk, I could blame Nvidia but my card works flawlessly with Vista if used in a non Asrock or VIA motherboard. As a result I will not be buying either Asrock or VIA products again in future, I suggest all those affected do the same to avoid further issues, hopefully as a result both companies suffer financially as they have basically ripped us off and washed there hands of the problem.""""""

U say here the problem is Asrock & VIA,Asrock may be ,there were problems reported with this mobo (search this topic " PCI-PCI Bridge re-install on every cold boot" that has also replies related to your problem)but not VIA,problems reported by MSI mobo users with VIA chipsets were solved with bios and driver updates.U say its not nvidia ,i agree with u,the problem is VISTA itself because was not properly tested.U just wanted to push users to blame VIA hardware.In 2001,2002,2003 and so on ,VIA made excellent chipsets for Intel and AMD processors not "junk" as u say.No name mobo manufacturers are not reference for VIA chipsets quality.On that boards no chipset will work correctly due to low quality production ,starting from the printed circuit board and finishing with the bad capacitors.A stable board has good voltage regulation and good printed circuit to provide stability.I m not an expert,this is a forum where we all put down our opinions based on our limited knowledge and experience.And yes your card is awesome,u wanted to hear that from the start,i hope you are happy now.

Wow what a bizarre rant, I'll be honest here I could only make sense of about 30% of what you wrote there, and the 30% I could make sense of almost sent me to sleep. For the record posting on a forum doesn't constitute a call for help, as you can see my first post is a statement not a question. This isn't the first problem I've had with VIA chipsets I've built a lot of PC's over the years and seen a good few VIA related issues, if I want to slaughter VIA on a forum as a result of my experiences with there products then I will do so. Please get someone to proof read any future posts you make, as your posts are an absolute train wreck and impossible to read, do you have no concept of how to form a sentence? Also from what I can tell almost 70% of what your saying is just random no

[jec10]

Just wanted to add my voice to those who sought a solution to this problem. Have Asrock 4CoreDual and 7600GT on Vista SP1. Can't use any Nvidia driver higher than 100 without graphic corruption issues described by all others on this thread.

[Aldeia]

Same problem here!

I have Asrock 775Dual-VSTA with latest bios 3.0 and Geforce 6800 AGP.
CPU C2D E6300.

This is bizarre Nvidia and VIA don´t care about it.